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Credibility of Online Degrees
1:53 PM EST 11/3/05
You may have seen this posted on publib: "Don't Discredit My Online Degree" by Karen Glover. http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA6269436.html

I'd be curious to hear of any other experiences out there of graduates needing to defend or promote the credibility of their online degree. Dare I assume that we in the LIS world are ahead of the curve in recognizing the benefits?
Re: Credibility of Online Degrees
11:18 AM EST 11/4/05 as a reply to Jennifer Peterson.
Very interesting! According to the study cited in the article, roughly 60 percent of employers view an online degree as "second class."

I hope some folks weigh in here with their personal experiences. I've heard great things about Drexel's distance program. I know that the University of Washington's iSchool had some logistical bugs to work out in the first couple of years of offering an online degree, but the curriculum and the teaching staff are pretty much the same as for the day (face-to-face) students. I took one distance class and was impressed with the level of communication between the other students with each other and with the instructor. They are getting much better preparation for immersion in a virtual world than those of us who sat in classes in the traditional way. We made little or no use of channels of electronic communication.

Has anyone met with this kind of discrimination in your job searching?
Re: Credibility of Online Degrees
12:09 AM EST 11/14/05 as a reply to Jennifer Peterson.
Well, I can't speak to Betha's question about problems with the job search since I haven't been in that situation yet.

In my experience at the University of Washington iSchool, the distance and the residency programs are simply different experiences, with one being neither better or worse than the other. Since the instructors, the requirements, and the course content is the same, it is only the format of delivery that is different. And there are pluses and minuses for both in-person and asynchronous online course experiences. So I haven't felt there is any reason to discredit my degree compared to a resident student.

I think it's important to acknowledge that not every master's program is the same and there maybe some schools whose online degrees are substandard. But that could be the case for some residency programs as well when you rate all the programs and compare.

Mostly people have been respectful of my online program choice and many ask questions about "how it works." I think with a little discussion most seem to realize it's a credible way to earn your masters. There will always be some who consider it a less valuable option. But then there are still some librarians who take exception to the amount of technology and theory taught into today's MLIS programs, arguing that they had a better education!

In terms of employability, I'd say two things. One is that my degree won't have an asterisk by it to note "online", so I don't think that will be something I note on my resume. And during the interview, I will have the opportunity to discuss the value of my education. If I sense disapproval, then the employer is likely not forward thinking enough for me to want to work with them anyway. The other thing is that many students choose the online option because they are already working in the field full-time. Therefore, in general, the distance students often have more applicable experiences when applying for positions after graduation than do resident students.
Re: Credibility of Online Degrees
7:15 PM EST 11/21/05 as a reply to Jennifer Peterson.
I completed my entire MSLIS online from Drexel (graduating this December) and completed more then half of my undergraduate degree online as well. It was the only option for me since my previous career had me doing extensive travel. When I started my undergrad online degree I had been working for a top name computer company and was assured my choice of school was acceptable. I learned alot from my program but combining it with my current company allowed me to shoot up the career ladder quite fast. I decided to do the same route that was so sucessfull for me with my undergrad with my masters program. I had grown up in the Philadelphia area so I knew Drexel's reputation as an on-campus college.

I took one class of my entire program on-campus. The rest I had to take online due to work. It was a life saver and I feel I learned just as much as my on-campus counterparts. Maybe even more since we are required to participate instead of hiding in the back of the room all term being quiet. I feel that my extensive association involvement and my willingness to learn outside the classroom helped me gain an edge in my learnings. Now mind you, I do believe that if I had been on campus I would have taken the same tactics. It was never an issue to me that I may be missing out because I was behind a computer screen.

I was laid off from my previous company in September after 6 years there and it couldn't have been better timing. I am in my last elective and was ready to find a job in an academic library. I found a great position as Networked Resources Specialist where I focus on SFX and e-resources at a Philadelphia-area college. My interview did ask the question of what I thought about my online MSLIS and my responses were just as anyone would assume from me who knows my traveling background. The online program was a godsend to complete a masters degree and I learned alot both in the class and outside the class.

I would recommend online programs to anyone who is very motivated and wants to obtain that goal of higher ed without feeling like its impossible due to life constraints. Drexel is just like any other school I have heard about - it has its ups and it has its downs. In the end choosing online did nothing but help me get where I never thought I would be.

-Sandra
Re: Credibility of Online Degrees
4:05 PM EST 11/21/05 as a reply to Sandra Schock.
Sandra, how great to hear your personal experience. I would hope that, as more library services move into the online sphere, the online degree will actually give you an edge of familiarity with that environment. A professor in a distance program told me that her institution has had no trouble with graduates getting jobs and they have hired several former online degree people to teach online classes. Nice symbiosis there!

I like your point about engagement online being required. I think it sets up a more egalitarian space where it's not as easy (though still possible, I'm sure) for a few individuals to dominate the classroom. I'm more articulate in writing than I am verbally -- the online setting gives me more room to collect my thoughts before I jump into the discussion.

Congratulations on your job!
Re: Credibility of Online Degrees
1:38 PM EST 11/22/05 as a reply to Betha Gutsche.
Thank you for this.

We're in the process of hiring a new reference librarian ... now I won't be quite so suspicious of an off-site degree.
Re: Credibility of Online Degrees
11:41 AM EST 11/23/05 as a reply to Bob Watson.
Since I have an online background and see no reason of thinking online is different from traditional can you elaborate on why you would have been suspicious of hiring someone with an online degree?
Re: Credibility of Online Degrees
12:23 PM EST 11/23/05 as a reply to Sandra Schock.
Lack of long-term "proof of quality."

Mind you, because "Library Science" is a collection of techniques with, nowadays, very little sense of "professional community" looking out for itself (as attorneys and doctors do) it is relatively easier to offer online.

YMMV, IMHO, etc.

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Re: Credibility of Online Degrees
11:41 PM EST 12/2/05 as a reply to Jennifer Peterson.
I read the article, too and was disappointed. I'm in an online U of N Texas MLIS student and I live in central Iowa. The library system I work for was very excited to know that there are accredited online programs because there aren't any within driving distance. Online programs allow the library to retain great staff and promote within. A meeting of staff with degrees was coordinated and online programs were discussed. Now, two of us are enrolled and several are preparing to apply.

Libraries need to see that online programs require students to be very motivated. They will also gain technology and communication skills that apply greatly to the current techie library or corporate environment. It really isn't much different from the real workplace where emails are zipping around and strong writing and communication skills are necessary. I still have group projects and leadership projects to complete. These programs aren't just reading and typing.

If you are an employer who questions online degrees, feel free to ask me questions and take a look at the curriculum offered at the schools. I will be more than happy to describe my educational experience and how I feel it will benefit me and my employer in the future.
Re: Credibility of Online Degrees
12:33 PM EST 12/2/05 as a reply to Bob Watson.
Understandable, but online programs still need to be ALA accredited and meet guidelines just like the on campus programs.
Re: Credibility of Online Degrees
1:37 PM EST 12/3/05 as a reply to Jennifer Peterson.
As an online undergrad student, I find this thread very interesting. When I chose to re-start my education I knew that I would have get my degree completely online (I have a full-time job, a part-time job, and run a small business...no time to schlep to a classroom). I researched and made sure that my choice of schools was fully accredited and offered what I was looking for. I have been surprised at the number of my Professors who have gotten their Masters and Ph.D.'s online. Some of these people have gotten their undergrad degrees from of some very prestigious universities so I figure that if THEY see the value in online education there must be something to it. Honestly, I believe that we "early" online grads are the trendsetters. Just as an online storefront takes a neighborhood business and turns it into a global enterprise so does a virtual campus create the opportunity for a university to reach a global student body. I forsee more and more online degree holders in the future. As a matter of fact, our new Michigan State Librarian, Nancy Robertson, is a Drexel grad. "Ms. Robertson holds a Master’s of Science degree in Library and Information Science from Drexel University, a Master’s of Arts degree in English Literature from the University of Illinois, and a Bachelor’s of Arts degree from the College of Wooster, Ohio." http://www.michigan.gov/minewswire/0,1607,7-136-3452-129996--,00.html
Re: Credibility of Online Degrees
1:24 PM EST 12/28/05 as a reply to Jennifer Peterson.
To Karen...(Where ever you are out there, I don't have your e-mail address).

"Don't Discredit My Online Degree"
By Karen Glover — October 15, 2005

Thank you so much for you informative article! You have given me hope in finally finishing my ALA accredited - MLS (of some sort) degree.

Alison

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RE: Credibility of Online Degrees
2:54 PM EDT 8/14/08 as a reply to Jennifer Peterson.
John Zogby said in a recent book that Americans will soon embrace distance education. See an article in
the Chronicle of Higher Education.

When we were looking at job candidates my boss frowned on a degree from the University of Phoenix. I'm not sure if it was because of the school or the fact that it was online.
RE: Credibility of Online Degrees
3:09 PM EDT 8/14/08 as a reply to Cynthia Porter.
I tend to think that management (moi!) would look at an online degree through the prism of what a particular job requires.

Tech services requires a great deal of familiarity with, and use of, specific tools. I'd be concerned about an online degree here inasmuch as my experiences in the long ago showed me that day-to-day association with a skilled practitioner was important.

On the other hand, for a person who brings a great deal of experience, subject knowledge, and curiosity to a reference position I might see an online degree as proper credentialing.
RE: Credibility of Online Degrees
2:07 AM EDT 10/12/09 as a reply to Jennifer Peterson.
Online Degrees still has credibility and when we talk about the advantages:
1. Automatic registration
2. The ability to work full time while still pursuing your studies
3. The ability to study in the comfort of your own home
4. Reduced tuition fees
5. The ability to revisit passed lectures without losing pace with the program
6. Examinations are usually open book and done online
RE: Credibility of Online Degrees
11:05 AM EDT 10/12/09 as a reply to Carly Uy.
Those are largely advantages for the person taking the course ... and not a bad thing by themselves. The larger questions, though, are: 1) What are the advantages to the profession (in terms of trained personnel) and 2) What are the advantages to the hiring organization ... do they get the quality they need?
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