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Should I give up the battle against proprietary formats?
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Should I give up the battle against proprietary formats?
10:05 AM EDT 9/11/08
My up-front confession is that there are probably some answers to my question in the many documents in this topic area, but I have not looked for them yet. My next step after posing this question will be to review those documents, but for right now, I would any immediate input that WJ members have to offer.

For a very long time I have avoided the quickness and convenience of simply posting and linking to PDF files, MSWord documents, etc. in favor of making the information in them available via HTML, using these proprietary formats only as a last resort when their content was either too difficult to render well in HTML or it was simply more accessible in the proprietary format.

Increasingly I feel I am being pressured both by those managing our content management system and the producers of the base content to "just turn it into a PDF" or just post the original document. The CMS folks are of the mind that any content much longer than a screen full of bullet points or hyperlinks really belongs in a document management system outside of the CMS. The content producers just want to avoid the time and energy it takes to convert their documents to HTML that is usable in the CMS--in other words HTML without all of the Microsoft "stuff" embedded in it.

Anyway, is there sense out there among web site managers in libraries that I should continue to push for the creation of HTML or if I should just give up and start putting out links to PDF's for every MS Word document delivered to me for web-publication--or any other sugestions?

thanks,
Sheila
RE: Should I give up the battle against proprietary formats?
11:49 AM EDT 10/8/08 as a reply to Sheila Kearns.
Hey Sheila,

I know the original post is a month old, but I just joined and have opinions to share! emoticon

Short answer: DON'T give up!

I agree, it seems everyone is of the opinion that resistance is futile and you should just do it the way "everyone else does." I am hear to tell you that "everyone else" most certainly does not do it that way, well, not exactly the way you describe it.

First, don't worry about PDF anymore as it is no longer a proprietary format. As of July 1, 2008 it is an ISO standard which can be implemented by anyone, making it a very viable format. Currently PDF docs can be viewed and edited in Mac, Linux, Unix and Windows.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format)

You didn't really mention the CMS system you use, but you are right, many of them talk the same way, if its not easily converted to their formats, just PDF it and put it up. But to be honest, lots of documents should be PDF for any number of reasons, and that's not a bad thing. Many organizations are required to make public documents that must be exactly like the originals. White papers, monthly/annual reports, technology plans, lots of documents have no need to be dynamic, and can be more accessible and reliable in PDF format.

Does that mean you should put everything in PDF? I think you know the answer to that. But more importantly, you mentioned putting DOC files up, which is something that should not be done, especially if it is DOCX. The Internet is built on open, and freely implementable standards, things anyone can use and deploy for free, and as you know, MS Office is not free, in any sense of the word, and the vast majority of people cannot even view DOCX, much less work with it.
Ideally, if the content producers care at all about the data they are posting and/or their audience they should want it to reach as many people as possible, with the least hassle for them as possible. Formats that require the audience to have specific software installed is not the way to do it.
If they are publishing using MS Office, shame on them for being lazy! hit File>Save As.. and change the file type to html. That's it! Worst case it warps the content to look horrible, but serves them right for using a word processor for web publishing (BIG NO NO). What will more likely happen, however, is that you now have an easy to drop in html file. Of course this is just one example of how it could easily be done.

Content provider format issues are commonly attributed to a lack of a formal submission process, but that is an issue for another time.

,Harper

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RE: Should I give up the battle against proprietary formats?
8:39 AM EDT 10/13/08 as a reply to Harper Apted.
Hello Harper and welcome or welcome back to WJ

Your response was actually very timely because I have been on leave for several weeks and just now got back to checking in with WJ.

Your information about non-proprietary PDF's is very helpful and your clear discussion of appropriate forms for web publishing gives me very good guidance on how to explain my concerns about web-publoishing formats to my colleagues.

BTW, the CMS being used here is based on Drupal and is being administered by the vendor that manages the State of VT web portal (www.vermont.gov). It was very encouraging to see this venodr using an open source platform and I have started to learn more about Drupal on my own so I can better communicate with the vendor about how I may want to use the CMS.

Thanks again for your thoughtful reply.

Sheila